ESP32 - GPIO speed lower than expected

Alizame
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ESP32 - GPIO speed lower than expected

Postby Alizame » Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:16 pm

Hi guys :)

I recently got my ESP32 (it's Rev0, I already checked that) and it runs fine, except that I don't get why the maximum toggle frequency for GPIOs seems to be 4 MHz.
w1ts w1tc 4mhz.png
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Is this really the maximum (the peripheral bus clock rate is 80MHz, so shouldn't it be 40MHz?)? Or are now the slow register-adresses (as mentioned in the ECO pdf) standard?

Im running the latest IDF (from github) and my project is based on the esp-idf-template (again form github).
My Toggle-function runs on Core1 (as a thread pinned to it).
I use GPIO.out_w1ts and GPIO.w1tc to set/clear the GPIO.

I have tried to simplify the code code as far as possible eliminate any "codelogic-errors".

The critical code section:

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void toggle(void *pvParameter) {
	printf("toggle called.\n");
	portDISABLE_INTERRUPTS();

	while (1) {
		GPIO.out_w1ts |= (1 << GPIO_NUM_23);
		__asm__ __volatile__("nop;nop;nop;nop;nop;nop;nop;"); // Bug workaround (I found this snippet somewhere in this forum)

		GPIO.out_w1tc |= (1 << GPIO_NUM_23);
		__asm__ __volatile__("nop;nop;nop;nop;nop;nop;nop;");
	}

	// GPIO.out doesn't make any difference
	/* ... */

	portENABLE_INTERRUPTS();
}
My complete main.c file: https://pastebin.com/9eYRUMVs , maybe you can check for errors :)

So why do I want to Toggle a GPIO as fast as possible? Why not...
I'm trying to get data as fast as possible into 4 x 8 D-FlipFlops (4 x 74ahct574), so I have 8 data lines and 4 clock lines.
Im new to ESP32 so I don't exactly know yet, how some of the peripherals/DMA work, so I thought this would be a good start

I am thankful for any help and maybe you can point me in the right direction to solve my problem.

PS: I'm sorry for any spelling/grammar errors, I'm not a native speaker.

Hans Dorn
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Re: ESP32 - GPIO speed lower than expected

Postby Hans Dorn » Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:25 am

Hi Alizame,

as far as I understand the w1ts/w1tc registers, you don't have to read them out to set/reset GPIO bits.
Try this version:

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void toggle(void *pvParameter) {
   printf("toggle called.\n");
   portDISABLE_INTERRUPTS();

   while (1) {
      GPIO.out_w1ts = (1 << GPIO_NUM_23);
      __asm__ __volatile__("nop;nop;nop;nop;nop;nop;nop;"); // Bug workaround (I found this snippet somewhere in this forum)

      GPIO.out_w1tc = (1 << GPIO_NUM_23);
      __asm__ __volatile__("nop;nop;nop;nop;nop;nop;nop;");
   }

   // GPIO.out doesn't make any difference
   /* ... */

   portENABLE_INTERRUPTS();
}

rsimpsonbusa
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Re: ESP32 - GPIO speed lower than expected

Postby rsimpsonbusa » Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:43 am

Tried it with a logical analyzer same result. Very slow. STM32f4 is 100MHZ.
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ESP_Angus
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Re: ESP32 - GPIO speed lower than expected

Postby ESP_Angus » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:31 am

For pin twiddling, you can get to 10MHz if you remove the "bug workaround":

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while (1) {
    GPIO.out_w1ts = (1 << TogglePin);
    GPIO.out_w1tc = (1 << TogglePin);
}
(No workaround is necessary here, the R0 silicon bug only triggers if you write to the same register multiple times in a row, but this code is writing two registers - OUT_W1TS & OUT_W1TC - alternately.)

A quick peek at the generated assembly shows that's pretty close to optimal:

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xtensa-esp32-elf-objdump -S build/app-template.elf

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        while (1) {
                GPIO.out_w1ts = (1 << TogglePin);
400f1d10:       7a0d81          l32r    a8, 400d0544 <_flash_cache_start+0x52c>
400f1d13:       7a0d91          l32r    a9, 400d0548 <_flash_cache_start+0x530>
400f1d16:       0020c0          memw
400f1d19:       2899            s32i.n  a9, a8, 8
                GPIO.out_w1tc = (1 << TogglePin);
400f1d1b:       0020c0          memw
400f1d1e:       3899            s32i.n  a9, a8, 12
400f1d20:       fffb06          j       400f1d10 <app_main+0x1c>
        ...
If you compile in Release mode then the extra compiler optimisation moves the jump target so it doesn't reload a8 & a9 each time around the loop, which doesn't actually change the result (due to CPU pipeline, buffered writes, slower I/O bus).

If you rewrite in inline assembler then you can even take out the memory barrier "memw" instructions for absolute minimum code size, but this also doesn't change the result - the CPU waits for the previous write to each register to complete before it writes there again.

We realise that 10MHz is not terribly fast, however using a fast CPU to bit-bang values is also much more fiddly than bit-banging on a simple 8-bit microcontroller. ESP32 has peripherals which help with this:
  • The RMT Peripheral is nominally designed to send/receive IR remote control signals, but can send/receive arbitrary pulse sequences. For example here is a project that uses it to drive addressable LED strings.
  • The SPI buses all function in DMA mode when using the IDF included driver, so you can clock data in/out at up to 80MHz.
  • The I2S peripheral can be used in a parallel mode to drive a single clock and multiple data inputs/output pins, also via DMA. I don't think a general-purpose driver is available for this yet. Ivan's camera example shows how to do it for clocking parallel data in, I'm not sure if a similar example exists for parallel data output yet.
If you can offload the bit-twiddling work to the peripherals, then CPU can spend its time handling WiFi, Bluetooth, high-level logic, etc.

Alizame
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Re: ESP32 - GPIO speed lower than expected

Postby Alizame » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:04 pm

A new problem arrived :D
code: https://pastebin.com/7ZC6Y4yU

If I write to GPIO.out_w1ts directly (like "GPIO.out_w1ts = (1 << 23);" ), my Core0 crashes or something like that (TG1WDT_SYS_RESET happens and Core0 doesn't print that it got to my loop function, but the GPIO gets set correctly until the ESP resets).
If I write it like "GPIO.out_w1ts |= (1 << 23), everything works fine (but slower). Also GPIO.out_w1tc works perfectly as expected.

Serial Output:
ets Jun 8 2016 00:22:57

rst:0x1 (POWERON_RESET),boot:0x13 (SPI_FAST_FLASH_BOOT)
ets Jun 8 2016 00:22:57

rst:0x10 (RTCWDT_RTC_RESET),boot:0x13 (SPI_FAST_FLASH_BOOT)
configsip: 0, SPIWP:0x00
clk_drv:0x00,q_drv:0x00,d_drv:0x00,cs0_drv:0x00,hd_drv:0x00,wp_drv:0x00
mode:DIO, clock div:1
load:0x3fff0008,len:8
load:0x3fff0010,len:3384
load:0x40078000,len:7428
load:0x40080000,len:252
entry 0x40080034
I (43) boot: ESP-IDF v2.0-rc1-387-g47b8f78 2nd stage bootloader
I (43) boot: compile time 15:13:16
I (44) boot: Enabling RNG early entropy source...
I (64) boot: SPI Speed : 80MHz
I (76) boot: SPI Mode : DIO
I (89) boot: SPI Flash Size : 4MB
I (101) boot: Partition Table:
I (112) boot: ## Label Usage Type ST Offset Length
I (135) boot: 0 nvs WiFi data 01 02 00009000 00006000
I (158) boot: 1 phy_init RF data 01 01 0000f000 00001000
I (182) boot: 2 factory factory app 00 00 00010000 00100000
I (205) boot: End of partition table
I (218) boot: Disabling RNG early entropy source...
I (235) boot: Loading app partition at offset 00010000
I (787) boot: segment 0: paddr=0x00010018 vaddr=0x00000000 size=0x0ffe8 ( 65512)
I (788) boot: segment 1: paddr=0x00020008 vaddr=0x3f400010 size=0x07004 ( 28676) map
I (804) boot: segment 2: paddr=0x00027014 vaddr=0x3ffb0000 size=0x023ac ( 9132) load
I (832) boot: segment 3: paddr=0x000293c8 vaddr=0x40080000 size=0x00400 ( 1024) load
I (857) boot: segment 4: paddr=0x000297d0 vaddr=0x40080400 size=0x1994c (104780) load
I (913) boot: segment 5: paddr=0x00043124 vaddr=0x400c0000 size=0x00000 ( 0) load
I (914) boot: segment 6: paddr=0x0004312c vaddr=0x00000000 size=0x0cedc ( 52956)
I (934) boot: segment 7: paddr=0x00050010 vaddr=0x400d0018 size=0x377ac (227244) map
I (960) cpu_start: Pro cpu up.
I (971) cpu_start: Starting app cpu, entry point is 0x40080b08
I (0) cpu_start: App cpu up.
I (1003) heap_alloc_caps: Initializing. RAM available for dynamic allocation:
I (1026) heap_alloc_caps: At 3FFAE2A0 len 00001D60 (7 KiB): DRAM
I (1046) heap_alloc_caps: At 3FFB7448 len 00028BB8 (162 KiB): DRAM
I (1068) heap_alloc_caps: At 3FFE0440 len 00003BC0 (14 KiB): D/IRAM
I (1089) heap_alloc_caps: At 3FFE4350 len 0001BCB0 (111 KiB): D/IRAM
I (1111) heap_alloc_caps: At 40099D4C len 000062B4 (24 KiB): IRAM
I (1131) cpu_start: Pro cpu start user code
I (1188) cpu_start: Starting scheduler on PRO CPU.
I (202) cpu_start: Starting scheduler on APP CPU.
I (202) wifi: wifi firmware version: 1f2a9e1
I (202) wifi: config NVS flash: enabled
I (202) wifi: config nano formating: disabled
I (202) wifi: Init dynamic tx buffer num: 32
I (202) wifi: wifi driver task: 3ffbd1d4, prio:23, stack:3584
I (202) wifi: Init static rx buffer num: 10
I (202) wifi: Init dynamic rx buffer num: 0
I (212) wifi: Init rx ampdu len mblock:7
I (212) wifi: Init lldesc rx ampdu entry mblock:4
I (212) wifi: wifi power manager task: 0x3ffc257c prio: 21 stack: 2560
I (222) wifi: wifi timer task: 3ffc35fc, prio:22, stack:3584
I (252) phy: phy_version: 350, Mar 22 2017, 15:02:06, 0, 0
I (252) wifi: mode : sta (24:0a:c4:07:8a:84)
toggle called.
ets Jun 8 2016 00:22:57

rst:0x8 (TG1WDT_SYS_RESET),boot:0x13 (SPI_FAST_FLASH_BOOT)
configsip: 0, SPIWP:0x00
clk_drv:0x00,q_drv:0x00,d_drv:0x00,cs0_drv:0x00,hd_drv:0x00,wp_drv:0x00
mode:DIO, clock div:1
load:0x3fff0008,len:8
load:0x3fff0010,len:3384
load:0x40078000,len:7428
load:0x40080000,len:252
entry 0x40080034
I (264) boot: ESP-IDF v2.0-rc1-387-g47b8f78 2nd stage bootloader
I (264) boot: compile time 15:13:16
I (264) boot: Enabling RNG early entropy source...
I (285) boot: SPI Speed : 80MHz
I (298) boot: SPI Mode : DIO
I (311) boot: SPI Flash Size : 4MB
I (323) boot: Partition Table:
I (335) boot: ## Label Usage Type ST Offset Length
I (357) boot: 0 nvs WiFi data 01 02 00009000 00006000
I (381) boot: 1 phy_init RF data 01 01 0000f000 00001000
I (404) boot: 2 factory factory app 00 00 00010000 00100000
I (427) boot: End of partition table
I (440) boot: Disabling RNG early entropy source...
I (457) boot: Loading app partition at offset 00010000
I (1009) boot: segment 0: paddr=0x00010018 vaddr=0x00000000 size=0x0ffe8 ( 65512)
I (1010) boot: segment 1: paddr=0x00020008 vaddr=0x3f400010 size=0x07004 ( 28676) map
I (1026) boot: segment 2: paddr=0x00027014 vaddr=0x3ffb0000 size=0x023ac ( 9132) load
I (1055) boot: segment 3: paddr=0x000293c8 vaddr=0x40080000 size=0x00400 ( 1024) load
I (1080) boot: segment 4: paddr=0x000297d0 vaddr=0x40080400 size=0x1994c (104780) load
I (1137) boot: segment 5: paddr=0x00043124 vaddr=0x400c0000 size=0x00000 ( 0) load
I (1138) boot: segment 6: paddr=0x0004312c vaddr=0x00000000 size=0x0cedc ( 52956)
I (1158) boot: segment 7: paddr=0x00050010 vaddr=0x400d0018 size=0x377ac (227244) map
I (1184) cpu_start: Pro cpu up.
I (1195) cpu_start: Starting app cpu, entry point is 0x40080b08
I (0) cpu_start: App cpu up.
I (1228) heap_alloc_caps: Initializing. RAM available for dynamic allocation:
I (1251) heap_alloc_caps: At 3FFAE2A0 len 00001D60 (7 KiB): DRAM
I (1271) heap_alloc_caps: At 3FFB7448 len 00028BB8 (162 KiB): DRAM
I (1292) heap_alloc_caps: At 3FFE0440 len 00003BC0 (14 KiB): D/IRAM
I (1314) heap_alloc_caps: At 3FFE4350 len 0001BCB0 (111 KiB): D/IRAM
I (1335) heap_alloc_caps: At 40099D4C len 000062B4 (24 KiB): IRAM
I (1356) cpu_start: Pro cpu start user code
I (1413) cpu_start: Starting scheduler on PRO CPU.
I (202) cpu_start: Starting scheduler on APP CPU.
I (202) wifi: wifi firmware version: 1f2a9e1
I (202) wifi: config NVS flash: enabled
I (202) wifi: config nano formating: disabled
I (202) wifi: Init dynamic tx buffer num: 32
I (202) wifi: wifi driver task: 3ffbd1d4, prio:23, stack:3584
I (202) wifi: Init static rx buffer num: 10
I (202) wifi: Init dynamic rx buffer num: 0
I (212) wifi: Init rx ampdu len mblock:7
I (212) wifi: Init lldesc rx ampdu entry mblock:4
I (212) wifi: wifi power manager task: 0x3ffc257c prio: 21 stack: 2560
I (222) wifi: wifi timer task: 3ffc35fc, prio:22, stack:3584
I (252) phy: phy_version: 350, Mar 22 2017, 15:02:06, 0, 0
I (252) wifi: mode : sta (24:0a:c4:07:8a:84)
toggle called.
As you can see the "loop called" from the loop function never gets printed out and the Watchdog starves ;(

I hope you can help me again ;)

ESP_Angus
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Re: ESP32 - GPIO speed lower than expected

Postby ESP_Angus » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:16 am

If I write to GPIO.out_w1ts directly (like "GPIO.out_w1ts = (1 << 23);" ), my Core0 crashes or something like that (TG1WDT_SYS_RESET happens and Core0 doesn't print that it got to my loop function, but the GPIO gets set correctly until the ESP resets).
If I write it like "GPIO.out_w1ts |= (1 << 23), everything works fine (but slower). Also GPIO.out_w1tc works perfectly as expected.
I think this is probably something to do with the fact that the task is permanently disabling interrupts. When I was playing with that code it also regularly reset itself.

If you disable interrupts in chunks, and come up for a breather now and then (just re-enabling them and immediately disabling them should be enough) then it should be OK.

Alizame
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Re: ESP32 - GPIO speed lower than expected

Postby Alizame » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:00 am

Ok, I can confirm that it has something todo with the disabling of the interrupts.
But is there any explanation why it only happens if I try to write to w1ts directly (and not with or) and everything works fine for w1tc?

Btw: is there any ETA on when I2S-Parallel Driver/Documentation will be available?

Pallav Aggarwal
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Re: ESP32 - GPIO speed lower than expected

Postby Pallav Aggarwal » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:38 pm

I was able to get 10Mhz @ESP32 working at 240Mhz with following instructions:

You can save on bit shifting the bit 1<<(2)

GPIO.out_w1ts = 0x04; // GPIO2 HIGH
GPIO.out_w1tc = 0x04; // GPIO2 LOW

My code was compiled still in debug mode.

Not sure, if there is a way to increase the speed a bit more?
Best Regards
Pallav Aggarwal
https://pallavaggarwal.in/

mad_b747
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Re: ESP32 - GPIO speed lower than expected

Postby mad_b747 » Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:30 pm

Not sure for the expressif toolchain, but since many years ago, when one puts an instruction in the code that is a fixed math or logical expression, usually the compiler converts it to the resulting value, so should be no difference in writing 1<<3 or writing 8 or 0x8 or 0x08.

PeterR
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Re: ESP32 - GPIO speed lower than expected

Postby PeterR » Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:44 pm

I am not tuning in to why you want to bit bang. In your other posts you go on to propose a parallel port.
The problem with these appoaches are asynchronous/aliasing behaviour.
Why not use the peripherals which ESP provide?
One might imagine that ESP drivers address the various silicon issues better than a GPIO driven at speed.

What is wrong with RMT, SPI, I2S etc?

PS
STM 100Mhz; look at the various buses and clocks. Some buses have multiple uses and your CPU clock may not be that bus' frequency (& often is not an x2 of you're CPU). CubeMx has a good diagram. Plus other stuff may use the bus of interest. Think how software cycles may then interact & I would say; use the manufacturer's peripheral logic & get out to the bar quicker. A point of view but ....
& I also believe that IDF CAN should be fixed.

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