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[Video] ESP32 - The ESP32 IRC channel

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:49 am
by kolban
Here's some meta information ... a short video illustrating the use of the #ESP32 channel on IRC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLG7QRv6Zbw

Re: [Video] ESP32 - The ESP32 IRC channel

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:04 am
by WiFive
Is there any hosted log for this channel?

Re: [Video] ESP32 - The ESP32 IRC channel

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:11 am
by kolban
That's a great question. To the best of my knowledge, my default answer would be "no". Ideally if we can find someone who has skills in IRC technology and the available tools and utilities, maybe such a thing could be set up?

Re: [Video] ESP32 - The ESP32 IRC channel

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:19 am
by WiFive
Maybe just convince botbot.me to add it or use their open source code.

Re: [Video] ESP32 - The ESP32 IRC channel

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:30 pm
by kolban
One of the chats going on just now is asking the question if "IRC" is the right vehicle .... as compared to others ... such as the flavor dejure - "Slack".

Re: [Video] ESP32 - The ESP32 IRC channel

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:53 pm
by madscientist_42
kolban wrote:One of the chats going on just now is asking the question if "IRC" is the right vehicle .... as compared to others ... such as the flavor dejure - "Slack".
IRC works with damned near everything. Literally. Yeah, it's oldschool- but perhaps that's what's needed. Never used Slack- no clue what it brings to the table over IRC.

(Just popped over there...) The moment you see "pricing", there's issue potentials for people using the thing. If they're willing to front the costs there, so that we're all "developers", then yeah, it's probably "fine". IRC's actually FREE. For everyone. True community service there.

Just because it's "new" doesn't make for it being "better" or appropriate. The plus there is you can do "group videos". While I wouldn't mind putting faces to the gang, you and a few others, and vice versa for all of y'all for myself...it's not a burning thing overall. There's other, better, solutions for that piece.

Re: [Video] ESP32 - The ESP32 IRC channel

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:03 pm
by madscientist_42
If Espressif wants to foot the bill on the server(s) for it, you can have Slack without the "price"- because with the right resources, it'd be cheaper to run your own server and run Mattermost...

https://www.mattermost.com//

They look like they're faintly cheaper for them hosting it than Slack- and you can always run the service yourself for free as FOSS software on your own gear.

Re: [Video] ESP32 - The ESP32 IRC channel

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:10 pm
by kolban
A good chap pinged me this

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I've been polling new users on the IRC channel ... and a lot of them are confused by the interface, tooling etc. They are also missing the inability to see history or paste in images directly. Apparently these things are taken as "table stakes" for many. I don't want to get into a "red" vs "blue" battle ... IRC (technically) works for me but I don't want to close my ears to what others want. Ive been surprised that more than a few didn't even know about the existence of the #ESP32 IRC channel. My hope is that we, as a community, will choose what the majority of us want to use and interact positively with each other for learning and ESP32 benefit. Whether that is forum, IRC, slack, Github comments etc etc ... those are the means to an end.

Re: [Video] ESP32 - The ESP32 IRC channel

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:20 pm
by loboris
Why not use Gitter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitter
There is already espressif/arduino-esp32 chatroom https://gitter.im/espressif/arduino-esp32

Re: [Video] ESP32 - The ESP32 IRC channel

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:05 pm
by madscientist_42
kolban wrote:A good chap pinged me this

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I've been polling new users on the IRC channel ... and a lot of them are confused by the interface, tooling etc. They are also missing the inability to see history or paste in images directly. Apparently these things are taken as "table stakes" for many. I don't want to get into a "red" vs "blue" battle ... IRC (technically) works for me but I don't want to close my ears to what others want. Ive been surprised that more than a few didn't even know about the existence of the #ESP32 IRC channel. My hope is that we, as a community, will choose what the majority of us want to use and interact positively with each other for learning and ESP32 benefit. Whether that is forum, IRC, slack, Github comments etc etc ... those are the means to an end.
Oh, I'll use damned near anything- the concern is getting to something like Bitbucket on us like what happened to Linus and Linux. Gitter's a decent suggestion if it does most of Slack's abilities or the one I suggested. IRC's actually usable in the manner they're used to if they use Trinity, Pidgin, or similar as a client. Slack's more for someone that never USED IRC and is looking for that functionality. (About along the lines of people thinking Blizzard or Origin made multiplayer online gaming happen...when it was the likes of Genesis LPMud that did that...and even before THEM...)

Unless Slack's going to let us all ON there for free as if we were a group collab at the enterprise level...it's not really much more than my dead last choice. I don't care how "nice" it is. I'm NOT paying for it- and I'm pretty sure they're not either.