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Very high stack usage with FreeRTOS and Eclipse-Arduino

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:20 pm
by RA5040
I had a suspected stack overflow issue and checked stack usage using the FreeRTOS utility function uxTaskGetStackHighWaterMark.

The max usage on a task written in Eclipse-Arduino is over 10,000 bytes (2500 words). This task does nothing (it just has a vTaskDelay and nothing else).

I then checked the esp-idf Blink task from the command line and it uses a max of under 2000 bytes (500 words). With the Blink task cut down to nothing but vTaskDelay, the max stack usage drops to 1500 bytes.

What are the possible reasons for that and what can be done about it? 10KB is a huge amount amount of stack space. Even 1500bytes seems excessive (even taking into account the 4-byte word size).

Re: Very high stack usage with FreeRTOS and Eclipse-Arduino

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:02 am
by ESP_Angus
Hi RA5040,

I'm unsure what you mean by "Eclipse-Arduino". Can you post some examples of the functions you are measuring stack usage for, please?


Angus

Re: Very high stack usage with FreeRTOS and Eclipse-Arduino

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:26 am
by RA5040
Eclipse-Arduino (also called Sloeber) is a plugin for Eclipse that allows one to write Arduino code in Eclipse.

I've checked the code in the Arduino IDE also and the results are the same.

Here is the test code:


static TaskHandle_t beeperTaskHandle = NULL;

void BeeperTask(void * parameter) {
int hilo = 0;
for (;;) {
hilo = !hilo;
vTaskDelay(1000 / portTICK_PERIOD_MS);
}
}

void setup() {
// put your setup code here, to run once:
xTaskCreate(BeeperTask, "Beeper task", 3000, (void *) 1, 1, &beeperTaskHandle);
Serial.begin(115200);
}

void loop() {

Serial.printf("beeperTaskHandle Usage (bytes) = %d\n",uxTaskGetStackHighWaterMark(beeperTaskHandle)*4);

}

Re: Very high stack usage with FreeRTOS and Eclipse-Arduino

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:57 am
by chegewara
First of all you are checking and printing highwater stack size, which means it's max unused stack size. Second, you are checking stack size of beepTask not looperTask, and third of all why you are multiplying it by 4?
That's why you have 3000*4 = 12000 bytes.

Now about looperTask stack size, it's by default about 8kB because most of usage cases arduino users will use only 1 task and this stack needs to be big enough to handle many drivers.

Re: Very high stack usage with FreeRTOS and Eclipse-Arduino

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:27 am
by ESP_Angus
As chegewara says, the result of uxTaskGetStackHighWaterMark() is the minimum amount of free stack space for the lifetime of the task. Larger values == less stack used.

A difference between ESP-IDF and vanilla FreeRTOS is that stack sizes are represented in bytes, not words. So there's no need to multiply by 4. A full list of differences can be found here: https://docs.espressif.com/projects/esp ... s-smp.html

If the result of uxTaskGetStackHighWaterMark(beeperTaskHandle) is 2500 with stack size 3000 then you can surmise that peak stack usage is 3000 - 2500 = 500 bytes. This is still a little high for a task which does almost nothing, but most of this is one-off cost due to needing stack for CPU exception handlers.

Re: Very high stack usage with FreeRTOS and Eclipse-Arduino

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:54 pm
by RA5040
hmmm ... I'm a bit embarrassed!

Thank you for pointing out what should have been obvious (reminder to myself to read the documentation more carefully!!).

Regarding the other points:
- I did want to get the stack usage of the Blink task, not the loop task
- I didn't realize that the xtaskcreate in esp-idf freertos specified the stack size in bytes ... I wonder why they didn't stick to the freertos spec?

Anyway, thank you :)